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The Business of Building a Successful Side Hustle (Episode #3)

The Business of Building a Successful Side Hustle (Episode #3)

On the third episode of TCTLE Office Hours, I had the pleasure of chatting with my very first guests—Vanessa Wells and Veronica Wells-Puoane. They are two of the three founders of Uptown Underground Market, an artisan and author market featuring creations from Black women in Harlem, New York. Over the years, I have had the privilege to learn more about them and their other ventures. Vanessa is a creative and Veronica is a writer and author and they both sell their work independent of their 9 to 5s.

In this episode, we chatted about their various side hustles, the first creative interest they each decided to pursue outside of their regular jobs and the journey of building a side hustle that gets them paid as Black women.

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Question answered on the episode:

What are some resources you'd like to share? 

Veronica: Canva is a free tool. It is perfect for anyone doing creative work and/or visually inclined with no experience with Photoshop. If you want to make pretty work that leaves a long lasting, Canva is a great resource for design work. 

Vanessa: The Nap Ministry is an educational, informational, communal and liberating platform. It is a beautiful space that helps you feel warm and seen. 

What's one piece of advice you wish to impart to fellow creatives? 

Vanessa: To pour as much into yourself as you pour into your craft. Do things just for yourself outside of work and your work will benefit from it.


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To connect with Vanessa Wells & Veronica Wells-Puoane: 

Uptown Underground Market Instagram
We Did Say Podcast 


Vanessa Wells

Euleli, a safe space for Black women to find rest & restoration in personalized & communal ways.

Euleli Website

Euleli Instagram

Personal Work

Ackee and Okra Website

Ackee and Okra Instagram


Veronica Wells-Puoane

No Sugar, No Cream specializes in the unsweetened [authentic] stories of Black women.

No Sugar, No Cream Website

No Sugar, No Cream Instagram

Personal Instagram



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